Mike

Mike Schultz SCO

And Wugmanmax great to hear I could help get this fledgling site some hits. Sometimes its the funniest things that help. As I said I really do like the articles and insight. And you’re right about the old adage. LOL Funny how we often make up what we think it was. I think it was actually: “There is no such thing as bad publicity”.

Changing gears—I have a question—

What does everyone think of superman’s new costunme? I think it stinks.

http://comicbook.com/blog/2011/06/11/new-superman-costume-revealed/

Ken

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/blog/captaincollector/interview-with-shark-city-ozarks-main-man-mike-scultz/

“About that time we became acquainted with a (now) good friend by the name of Fred Stine who runs what I consider the best JAWS related forum/site called Operation Orca. He guided us along a more practical route to getting these designs out to the fans.
Fred’s now an integral part of our team and in fact has been doing some phenomenal marketing work which in a round about way helped us get in contact with you.”

do you think this fred guy is the quint guy!?

The shark did look nice, it’s just a shame this whole thing happened.

I believe the quote you were going for was “there is no bad press”, but I see your point. This page is actually getting lots of hits thanks to your comments! It may have just faded away otherwise… it was already a year old.

http://www.10mfh.com/random-news/dc-comics-reboot-entire-damn-universe-again/

Thought it was interesting actually. Especially in line with the reboots happening in movies lately.

And the quote you referenced also sounds like something a dedicated fan would write. Like someone that owns one of these sharks and is simply loyal to the brand. I bet if you told a proud ferrari owner that was bragging about their car and the company on a car forum, that they had no business promoting the car to others and were lambasted for doing so they’d probably get kinda defensive too.

Its also possible the company isn’t yet aware of what’s going on as far as defamation and if they are I doubt they’ll be posting anything up her anytime soon. Probably just be sending a legal document.

It’s not like Bill gates is going to issue a response on every forum that cries foul, or in follow up to a debacle resulting from forum administration getting in a ruckus with someone who wants to promote the new Windows software they just picked up, and can’t say enough good things about after they forgot to make intros.

The funny thing about this is I don’t see this company needing much advertising as their artworks look incredible and I bet fans are lining up to buy what they’re selling. Heck,, even I’m interested now. I guess the old adage “bad advertising is still good advertising” holds true.

Appreciate you trying to rationalize Wugmamax however, IMO I think this entire article isn’t helping make any sort of case for 10mfh. I’d be worried it might make things worse and probably lead to some kind of legal entanglements. I’d rather be able to see this site stay online so I can red more comic and movie reviews.

Just my two cents.

Ken

If this is the actions of just an over-zealous fan… no harm no foul.

But in the original thread, that question was asked, and apologies were offered if that was the case. That option was NEVER explored by “capt quint”. There was an “easy out”. He could have just said that he was just a fan, and everything would have been dropped. Instead “capt quint” took on a company representative role for the organization. Since the company has not come out publicly to say that this was NOT the actions of them or any of their representatives, I think “freedom of speech” is fair game here. It’s not really opinion if someone claims to be something is it? I’ll quote “capt quint” in case you missed it:

“I actually don’t need the ‘free advertising space’ here as this isn’t a product that actually needs advertising. In fact its not really a product as much as it is pop art.”

Sounds like he is claiming to be from the company to me.

Just a simple post in good faith telling us that “capt quint” was not acting on behalf of the company is all it takes. Look up “Vincent Ferrari aol call”, “United Breaks Guitars” or myriads of any other “negative image” backlashes toward companies. These companies had a chance to make things right. Some of them do.

In this case, if the company is innocent…no defamation intended, no slander or libel intended. If the company realizes they made a mistake and make amends, it goes a long way. If they have nothing to do with “capt quint” and make it known to us, we will gladly amend, append, and/or revisit the story. Not sure what else we can do.

Ken, I’m also actually wondering what “comic reviews” you have been reading lately as that is not a main part of the site… in fact I’m not sure the last time anyone has actually posted a “comic review”. We mostly deal with movies, action figures and other similar things. The post Kyle originally posted really fits in with the type of stuff we cover. Just curious.

Its unfortunate I found this article to tell you the truth as it really makes this site look childish as I said.

Not being a lawyer, I do however know that the line dividing both libel and slander in so far as the internet is concerned tends to get blurred. Both libel and slander actually fall under the broader term ‘defamation’. Technically I’d say (and this is just my opinion) so far this looks like actionable defamation on the part of Kyle Thoreau and probably Wuganmax, especially considering the defamation is being stated and claimed as fact not opinion. Understanding this, you’ll probably want to consider getting a good criminal defense lawyer if they do go after you.

Better yet, why not try going back to writing comic reviews so everyone including me has something more interesting to read about. I already skipped this place once after reading this article but figured I’d drop in again to clarify my perspective. I also re-read the forum thread in question again and it still sounds like capt.quint was instinctively and defensively responding to attitudes from those encountered on the site. Can’t see why anyone wouldn’t react that way. I see no proof capt. quint is a representative from this cool company you’re complaining about. Sounds like just another enthusiastic fan looking to share something they found. If you’re that worried about what’s being said by new members you should probably screen and delete rather than react sarcastically and incite inverse reactions from said fans.

Don’t see why the fan would need to defend what was said either as silence doesn’t constitute guilt. And I also see no reason for this company to clarify, apologize for, or defend when it looks like the unprofessional defamatory, libelous, slanderous guilt rests only on this site for printing these kinds of articles and overly reacting to fans you think break the unthinkable ancient laws of forum ethic.

Really makes me want to get out of this hobby when I read silly articles like this. In fact I probably better steer clear for good this time just so I’m not tied up in any legal action if this site or Kyle do get sued or indicted.

I bet this is why old school J. Jonah Jameson probably prefers good old fashioned newspaper print where the lines are rarely blurred. And GD, that dirt might have some gold in it if you sift it right. You’d be surprised how much dirt gets fought over. Really depends on whether the ‘dirt’ is just dirt or heresay.

Ken